tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-907072761086927765.post1767961367851279832..comments2023-09-21T04:48:47.070-04:00Comments on Living In Grace: Losing Hell??? A Critique of an Emergent View of the AfterlifeLutherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17143809114997362753noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-907072761086927765.post-45418949066813465372011-03-26T09:16:31.968-04:002011-03-26T09:16:31.968-04:00hello Anonymous.
Where in God's first stateme...hello Anonymous.<br /><br />Where in God's first statement of death was annihilation mentioned. When then sinned did they die physically at that moment? No they did not and the death of the soul/spirit is not extermination of existence ( although some do claim that ) but is described as the separation from God.<br /><br />Luke 16:23<br />"In Hades he lifted up his eyes, being in torment, and saw Abraham far away and Lazarus in his bosom."<br /><br />In the story of Lazarus and the rich man, did the rich man cease to exist upon death? Or was he found in torments seeking relief although unrepentant?<br /><br />Mark 9:43<br />" If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life crippled, than, having your two hands, to go into hell, into the unquenchable fire,..."<br /><br />The fire is unquenchable and warned as such.<br /><br />2 Peter 2:3-9 (New American Standard Bible)<br /><br /> 3and in their (A)greed they will (B)exploit you with (C)false words; (D)their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.<br /><br /> 4For (E)if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and (F)committed them to pits of darkness, reserved for judgment;<br /><br /> 5and did not spare (G)the ancient world, but preserved (H)Noah, a preacher of righteousness, with seven others, when He brought a (I)flood upon the world of the ungodly;<br /><br /> 6and if He (J)condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction by reducing them to ashes, having made them an (K)example to those who would (L)live ungodly lives thereafter;<br /><br /> 7and if He (M)rescued righteous Lot, oppressed by the (N)sensual conduct of (O)unprincipled men<br /><br /> 8(for by what he saw and heard that (P)righteous man, while living among them, felt his righteous soul tormented day after day by their lawless deeds),<br /><br /> 9(Q)then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from temptation, and to keep the unrighteous under punishment for the (R)day of judgment, "<br /><br />Hell is a place of torments ( see previous passage )reserved for those deserving judgments. If they are reserved in torments (hell) for their wickedness what gives us the right to assume that their ultimate judgment will be less than the initial?<br /><br /> 12And I saw the dead, the (AO)great and the small, standing before the throne, and (AP)books were opened; and another book was opened, which is (AQ)the book of life; and the dead (AR)were judged from the things which were written in the books, (AS)according to their deeds.<br /><br /> 13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and (AT)death and Hades (AU)gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them (AV)according to their deeds.<br /><br /> 14Then (AW)death and Hades were thrown into (AX)the lake of fire This is the (AY)second death, the lake of fire.<br /><br /> 15And if anyone's name was not found written in (AZ)the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire. <br /><br />I will readily grant that much of Revelation is symbolic, hyperbolic, and possibly allegorical but if the language used is so over the top what make us think that the reality will be less. Or are we to think that God will receive glory from being unjust?<br /><br />" Hell, then, is the trajectory of a soul, living a self-absorbed, self-centered life, going on and on forever." Tim KellerLutherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17143809114997362753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-907072761086927765.post-48546227098019577282011-03-26T00:41:09.609-04:002011-03-26T00:41:09.609-04:00Hi,
"those who believe ( eternal life ) and t...Hi,<br />"those who believe ( eternal life ) and those who don't ( perish )" --that is it right there isnt it? Just like God told the first couple, if they disobeyed the punishment was death. And then they would return to dust. Not any mention of eternal torments.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-907072761086927765.post-60625847014252391162011-03-20T16:34:19.550-04:002011-03-20T16:34:19.550-04:00Yes, as the Bible says, "so whether you eat o...Yes, as the Bible says, "so whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God" (1Corinthinas 10:31). We must live our lives in order to please God and glorify His name in whatever we do. Thanks for the post. God bless.Mel Avila Alarillahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00166954063114607598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-907072761086927765.post-24834241770665193012011-03-16T15:57:59.842-04:002011-03-16T15:57:59.842-04:00Thanks Sally. E.Stephen introduced me to Spec Fai...Thanks Sally. E.Stephen introduced me to Spec Faith and I have really enjoyed you guys writing over there. <br /><br />I go to Ligonier often as I greatly respect Dr. Sproul.<br /><br />Yes He also lost any sense of justice and Holiness that God has every demonstrated.Lutherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17143809114997362753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-907072761086927765.post-8920581112700951172011-03-16T15:35:01.208-04:002011-03-16T15:35:01.208-04:00Good post. I noticed Ligonier had a bunch of posts...Good post. I noticed Ligonier had a bunch of posts on hell on the blog yesterday. Worth studying. http://www.ligonier.org/blog/hell/ The poor fellow who lost hell also lost a holy and just God, I think. He lost the Bible, for sure, and agreement with Jesus.<br /><br />I popped over from Spec Faith. Nice blog.sally https://www.blogger.com/profile/11068670473065918371noreply@blogger.com